人活着该不该有信仰？

WILLIAMS

mmpleaser 发表于 2016-2-16 13:58
TO I got 40 years old VSOP, do not need yours, but then hate to drink that good stuff.
Always get  ...

I can treat you some iced wine too

WILLIAMS

mmpleaser 发表于 2016-2-6 06:05
Bro W,
I am sorry that I disagree wth you on the poor SE Asia poor couple not being happy.  On the c ...

Hey mmp
I just rethink the problem here,
You may be right. a poor couple could be happy , and even be happier than you
(of course happier than me, i am sure they do not too much alcohol to numb themselves down

However, i think you misunderstood my original question and standpoint.
I might be too emotional to comment on them. Not logical enough.
You know, emotion blurs the eyes.  I am such an emotional person, guilt to the natural science training i received.
If you learnt sociology , or Marxism you should understand this
My standpoint is
one's thinking , mentality and life experience is in the influence of his economic status , social status.
You would never know how to appreciate the night view in NYC from helicopter if you are a poor countryside chinaman who never afford go abroad
Or one would never know the feel of composition music if he cannot afford the tuition fee to musical schools.
So i doubt that couple's happiness.
I said their ignorance of things they do no know such as europe culture, fine art, tea salon in high class society, famous watch, LV coach, lambo, would lead to their unhappiness.
I call that economic deprivation.
I am not sure whether economic deprivation would definitely lead to unhappiness.
But i am sure economic prosperity without spiritual life would make you feel living in a prison built of silver and gold.
Such as a rich man without friend---tragic
Please do not think how many zeros in one's band account is the only criterion for his happiness.
there is a bank called happiness bank with happiness as your ultimate currency saved there as your memory and possession.
Maybe that couple is rich in terms their saving in the happiness bank.
One thing cannot afford being ignored is their living is seriously subjective to their economic power and social status.
If the man is a blue collar instead of a white collar or some kind of political leader/business man,
the View is radically different .
A CEO has his worries miseries along with his enjoyment,
however, if you are not a CEO you do not have any chance experiencing even a sip of his enjoyment and misery.
i am justing using Marxism here.
So your ideology is impacted and constructed on your economic base.
A lower class is low , but he may be happy ,not sure.
maybe i should change the debate of happiness to the debate of the construction of  one's ideology

i know i may be out of date quoting Marxism,
Instead, i should write you a 50 pages essays talking about this issue referencing 200 books and journeys.

WILLIAMS

WILLIAMS 发表于 2016-3-11 20:23
Hey mmp
I just rethink the problem here,
You may be right. a poor couple could be happy , and even ...

Also please see Karl Marx in stanford encyclopedia of philosophy
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/sidney-hook/
also other thinkers to enrich your thinking of this issue

WILLIAMS

http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/marx/

WILLIAMS

mmpleaser 发表于 2016-2-16 13:58
TO I got 40 years old VSOP, do not need yours, but then hate to drink that good stuff.
Always get  ...

You may be right on the happiness of that couple
but here my question is How much power and  control can they Have over their life to create happiness.
Happiness is not created out of thin air.
If you sleep on the street homeless, or cannot afford high education you are certainly unhappy .
That couple is not as tragic as homeless, but also economically deprived to some degree

My claim here is they power and control and ability to create happiness is seriously limited by their economic status. with limited power.
I am not a Marxist

WILLIAMS

but also economically deprived to some degree
200 books and journals

mmpleaser

WILLIAMS 发表于 2016-3-11 20:29
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/marx/

Guess what this is first time I read more detail of Marx.
Interest in section 3. Economics.  Commodity use and exchange value.

WILLIAMS

mmpleaser 发表于 2016-3-12 04:11
Guess what this is first time I read more detail of Marx.
Interest in section 3. Economics.  Commo ...

every chinese knows Marxism.

mmpleaser

WILLIAMS 发表于 2016-3-12 16:12
every chinese knows Marxism.

Heard of vs Know of    are different things.
Need to study,  not just the word.

WILLIAMS

mmpleaser 发表于 2016-3-12 16:26
Heard of vs Know of    are different things.
Need to study,  not just the word.

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