Abe's lesson from Germany

dragondick

http://www.france24.com/en/20150 ... ny-korea-china-war/


Angela Merkel's message to Japan, "Call things by their name".  

tomsiu

Why you use "Abe's lesson from Germany" ?
You don't have your own?

Let me tell what is MY OWN :
Abe not represent Japanese. He is a person only. Same as CKS (He is a person only). He is no China.
Angela Merkel not represent German. She's a person only. Same as CKS (He is a person only). He is no China.
Tom Siu not represent 747. He's a person only. Same as CKS (He is a person only).

The above statement come from my own. No lead/link & relates nowhere. No 惡話. Welcome sharing.

theone

错了，一家之主，一党之魁，一国之君，他们在公众所有的言论是代表了他们所在的单位. 例如：
習近平是代表中国的，
李嘉诚是代表长实的，
Ben2009 是代表747的，如果有一天Ben2009 说：747不欢迎任何異族，那就是747的政策了，明白吗？
他们是代表了他们所属的群体，他们一言一行也代表了整个群体，尽管群体里有

theone

您老汤当然不能代表747啦，因为您不是这里最高的领导人吗.
但宾哥就是完全能代表了. 对吗.
例如，蒋就是代表了当时的国民党，但是张群，陈诚就不是.
毛代表了当时的共产党，而共产党代表了整个中国，所以毛就共产党，同样的周恩来，朱德就不是了.

dragondick

  

tomsiu

theone 发表于 2015-3-10 09:17
错了，一家之主，一党之魁，一国之君，他们在公众所有的言论是代表了他们所在的单位. 例如：
習近平是代表 ...

Hey 一哥. You always here (around us). Recently you hided sooooo good that I find you nowhere.
This subject prompted you out with quick response & have face/picture changed.

Let's go back to the subject;
Your statement good to certain extend. But not for this case ... "Abe's lesson from Germany".
German is free Country. Merkel selected to "administrate" German 100%. Not to express every German's own "mind/feel". Merkel not won 100% votes from German.
Here I said Merkel could "administrate" German but can't represent 100% German's "feels".

Administration requires ACTION. Not feel.

If topics changed to "Abe's lesson from Merkel" that I am OK.

習近平 killed (action) 30,000 his own people doesn't means I agree (feel). And I am killer too. And I pay no shame to every one.

theone

德，意，日，这三个国家发起了等二次世界大战令到多过二千万人掉了生命.
但德国，意大利，已经对发动二战而作出了认错，其对发动战争的刽子手们处于极刑.
所以这二个国家很快的就被邻园所接受.
但日本到今天还一直否定二战，乱改历史，还一直不顾受害国的感觉，将二战所有战犯当英雄恭俸在垃圾的靖国神社.
麦克尔的意思是要日本面对二战时期的罪行而令历史不再重演，修補和邻国之间的关系.
这是一个官方外交场合，所以麦克尔绝对是代表德国的.

tomsiu

theone 发表于 2015-3-10 13:22
德，意，日，这三个国家发起了等二次世界大战令到多过二千万人掉了生命.
但德国，意大利，已经对发动二战而 ...

但德国，意大利，已经对发动二战而作出了认错 ~~~~ Situation are different. 德国，意大利 surrounded by lots of  civilized Countries. Such as France, England, Holland, Sweden, Belgium etc. 认错 has different 目的.(So that German goods could entered other countries) German Italy needed to stand up again. Or they would pay price to economic up-turn. 认错 mostly came from their education system that "killing" or "war" is not the only way of conquer. Particularly German are leading Euro Zone. Today, German even participate in most "world class" event.

日本"乱改"历史 by Abe. Means that 历史 did 面对二战时期的罪行 before. Countries around Japan are mostly 低能. These countries have no choice but have to buy Japanese goods. To 刺激上進心 of their people "superior" mind-set which presented by administrator. As Company CEO always promote propaganda to defeat their enemies. Such as 李嘉诚 said "长实必須打垮英資". Today, due to civilization/education that large-scale-war would no longer thread to world peace. Japanese are PEACE person in Japan (Tokyo) & any other world cities.

Japan suffered 20+ years of economic down-turn. 刺激 (or new approach) is needed but, how? That's why China always 譴責 Abe, not Japanese. I accept Abe using wrong way (of刺激) but not Japanese.

Ben2009 是代表747的 ~~~ Yes, Agree. In 747 BEN represent the entire administration & people itself. In small group of people it's correct. Japan, China or German have billion of people. Therefore, BEN/747 is not a good example to this subject.

Thanks to 亞一的 comment. Very civilized. Welcome for comment. No 惡語.





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tomsiu

Here the subject brought out two topics: (麦克尔)代表 and (日本)认错

代表 : In small group of people it's easy to accept "a" person as "代表". But not easy in large group. In most EVIL/SERIOUS or (Asian's 無面) cases "a" person can not 代表 anyone.

认错 : 很常見的西方文化. 他們認為，這是正確的方式來緩解緊張局勢. 在亞洲人它涉及到 "無面". Asian choose "不見,不問,不答,不回應" 作為认错. For example 中國父親 hardly 认错 to his son. 西方父親认错 with ease.

歡迎交流意見 gentlemanly.

dragondick

"Gentlemanly" is not to ask questions as if the other party is being cross-examined in a court room.  

Also not to express one-sided views & call it objective, while all others are subjective.

I rest my case!