JAPAN'S HYPOCRISY

tomsiu

Today 2015. We live in Global realm. Around us are all kind of Nationalities/Races. We encounter all kinds of cultures/religious. We eat all kind of food (Curry, Vietnamese, Korean, Japanese, Italian, French etc).

Our Children coming to friend or even married to German, Japanese, Korean, Italian etc. All of them are good people. Then none of them are enemies (to us) or no reason to "hate" them.

Our parents were victims of war during Japan invasion 1937~1945. The "war" not to remind us how bad the Japanese were. It should reminded us that how "education/civilization" means to us.

[From what I noticed today, Japanese are more educated/civilized than other "Asian" neighbors]

History not taught/induced us to revenge/hate. History reminded us to adjust/improve to good.

Ellesmere

tomsiu 发表于 2015-2-14 02:22
Today 2015. We live in Global realm. Around us are all kind of Nationalities/Races. We encounter all ...

I agree on a point where we should be forgiving and build a better future together with other different countries. As we state in the earlier posts, Japanese government have repeatedly putting salt on other people's wound, (not admitting their what they've done in the war, praising war criminals, covet lands that isn't theirs.)
When a kid did something wrong, you will teach to apologize and to admit what they've done.  It's pretty simple.
Germany admit it and apologized, do you think they should retract their apology and pretend the Holocaust have never happened? I personally think Germany did the right thing by apologizing what they've done. After that, they've gain the confident of other countries to build a better future.

P.S. You cannot justified what the Japanese have done unless they've eased the tension by apologizing.
Reply to your last point: "Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." by George Santayana

tomsiu

Ellesmere 发表于 2015-2-14 07:27
I agree on a point where we should be forgiving and build a better future together with other diffe ...

Japanese government ~~~~ Thus, it refers to 安倍 & its administration.

Britain & France are well support by USA after WII. Too bad they both pull-leg by their own citizen. Both their education/political system drag their advancing. Therefore, it gives chances to Germany in western Europe.

German apologized to wrong-doing at WII has purposes. German wants to be the leader in Euro Zone. German shown her kindness. German stood so much outstanding today in Technology, Industrial, Mechanical & Financial...... in her Zone. German conquers Europe again but, not by gun. IMO, German apologized to war crime is not a good example comparatively to Japan (安倍).

In Asia, after another battle field (WII) ends USA assisted Korea, Japan, Taiwan, Philippine, Singapore & Malaysia etc to build a comfort fence for peace. [Red Korea, China & Vietnam posing threats by that time]. Japan are front runner & now gradually catching up by Korean. Both HK & Taiwan fell way way behind nowadays.

I agree to all kind of elements in this debates but, not to "APOLOGIES TO WAR CRIME/DOING"

[Steven Harper apologies to Chinese of HEAD TAX which has political purpose. Don't you agree this?]

dragondick

tomsiu 发表于 2015-2-14 10:15
Japanese government ~~~~ Thus, it refers to 安倍 & its administration.

Britain & France are well  ...

Read some history books or news releases, Tomsiu, all post-war PM either went in person or sent a top level minister,  to pay respect to war criminals housed at the National Shrine.

Was that an apology??  For the Japanese, The National Shrine symbolizes "the spirit of Japan".  Glorifying the war criminals is "adding oil to fire".

Also did you read #1,  Japanese Govt said it will never forgive ISIS for beheading 2 Japanese journalists?  My response was, if Japanese Govt cannot forgive 2 beheadings, how can they expect China to forgive thousands & thousands of beheadings of innocent Chinese?!

You then went on to praise the young generation as a new breed & I said if the Japanese Govt edited history text books to deny past atrocities and put the blame on other countries, how can Japan produce a generation of youngsters different from the past?

Anyway, stay with the topic.  If you want to deviate, start a new topic.

tomsiu

Text books, history books etc were written subjectively according to their own wills/benefits or says “洗腦” by HKers word.
White European acknowledged their occupied American lands are good fate to Natives.
金人 occupied 中原, 西藏, 新疆, 台灣 are good fate to 漢人.
If wrong-doing exists there would be no WAR to be started. Only naïve accepts wrong-doing/apologies after (not before) impact.
WAR ends with 成者為王, 敗者為扣.
Japanese never amended their text books since beginning. They believed they are superior than any other Asian Nations for last 200 years. They still believed it today. Their instinct allow them to unit together by all forms including their own text (school 洗腦) books.
Japan is not hypocrites. They are truly disrespect all their neighbors.
As Chinese ourselves, we are so naïve to condemn “their” wrong-doing but ignoring our own “weakness”and refuse to correct/accept/improve it.
Don’t you noticed that Japanese are bow to Americans? Even they delivered them 2 atomic bombs. Hate/Condemn wouldn’t change things better. Only correct/accept/improve would.
IMO, ISIS beheaded 2 Japanese not relates to this subject. Japan killed Chinese at war. ISIS has no war to Japan. From TV news I noticed ISIS militants driving TOYOTA!

Ellesmere

tomsiu 发表于 2015-2-14 12:54
Text books, history books etc were written subjectively according to their own wills/benefits or say ...

So in your point of view, you are saying victims from the war is lying about the massacre by the Japanese and what Japanese textbooks saying is true, that is was only an "incident " and there were no wrongful killing at all?
Do you know what is the Japanese education system teaching to their citizens?  They're saying the Chinese is making up the massacre and only want compensation from Japan.

dragondick

Ellesmere 发表于 2015-2-15 04:34
So in your point of view, you are saying victims from the war is lying about the massacre by the J ...

You must forgive Tomsiu for his ignorance for he once stated that all news releases, publications, were subjective; only what he wrote was objective.

That makes one wonder where did he get his "objective" views without reading any of the "subjective" publications??  

tomsiu

Massacre is inevitable by that time in war. While 30,000 invade soldiers in town facing 300,000 prisoners. Jail & food are not enough. Death/kill is part of the fight. Let says you are the head of the invader & facing 300,000 prisoners. You are lack of food & ordered to march forward to "next" battle field. What would you do to this 300,000 lives. War is cruel & that's why we want peace (and forgiveness).

Text/history books or references video were written by “other” person. Why don’t you/we use your/our own brain for deepen analysis?

What if Japan started the war 100 years earlier (say 1837) then, I would think the Jap would have another ethnic group after 金人 to conquer 中原. By that time European non-exist. No American. Mainland still under ruling by 金人.

So many weakness among 漢人 that they pertain : 短視. 不團結. 自私. 不理現實. 固執. 自大. Thanks to the poor (or落後) education systems. Why I mentioned 漢人 in this illustration? Just because 漢人 proven failed. 蒙古人 and 金人 proven success (in last 800 years). Japanese nearly the 3rd ethnic group success in中原 . 漢人 constitute 90% of population in China.

Per subject Japan 偽君子. Why not we look at it from different angle. Today, China grew to & became threat to her (superior) position in Asia. 安倍 (Elected by people) administrating a different approach including, 洗腦教育 to wake up their people. To this Japanese demonstrate 團結, 面對現實, 遠見, 接受改變. Thus, don’t you think it is elements of success? At least Japanese live in 2015. Not Still in 1911.

Today, we live in multi-culture society in Toronto. Our Children receiving same type of education. Should we need changes also?