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大家點睇佔中呢單野呀? [挨千刀的死鬼]

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 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-26 04:39:59 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2014-10-25 12:50:32 | 只看该作者


In 共產黨 society. It has people love 和平....... Like me.
In 自由 society. It has people love 暴力/流血.

真正的幸福 needs people whom love 和平. 携手共进找答案. (Not fight. No blood. No stubborn).
真正幸福的society needs to erase those 暴力的人.







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发表于 2014-10-25 20:45:01 | 只看该作者


1987年6月12日,罗纳德·里根访问西柏林时,在勃兰登堡门的柏林墙前发表演说:“戈尔巴乔夫先生,请推倒这堵墙!”在该墙建立后,有人采用跳楼、挖地道、游泳等方式翻越柏林墙,共有5043人成功地逃入西柏林,3221人被逮捕,239人死亡,260人受伤。





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发表于 2014-10-25 20:54:45 | 只看该作者


香港学生是把战线拉得太长了.所以由被同情而变成了被讨厌了.
如果我是学联三子的话,佔中一定要败,而且要快完结但一定要够悲壮,要赢得全世界的同情一定要有烈士牺牲的.
就像被毛人凤暗杀的闻一多一样.
以一人血唤醒全世界的人民,香港人对民主的渴望.
等全世界向中国施压而作出让步.





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发表于 2014-10-26 04:28:31 | 只看该作者


theone 发表于 2014-10-25 20:54
香港学生是把战线拉得太长了.所以由被同情而变成了被讨厌了.
如果我是学联三子的话,佔中一定要败,而且要 ...


佔中一定要败 ~~~~ 这就是(高手的)政治学 la. Other 2 guys (whom support 学生 in this thread) please learn from this. 第一兄, 你果然是高手哦.

泛民推学生上街. 希望被打. 是负方. 现在由被同情而变成了被讨厌了

真正的胜利可以是属于负方. 打曾建超的警察可以给人同情. 泛民可能在2016选举一鋪清袋. 我们怎能 let 梁震英辞职? 学生認識政治吗?

泛民如果今天辞职. 制造变相公投.泛民可能会提早一鋪清袋. 泛民必然拒绝 ....  现在是政治游戏的开始哦. Street fight .. 嗯 .. 太天真了? 可憐的学生们, 永遠是被利用的一群. 梁震英的對手不是学生... 是泛民们.

如果我是学联三子的话,佔中一定要败 ~~~~ No. 他们不会的. They are now enjoying BBQ at the impact sites. 骄傲地上TV. 享受出风头. 無視法院命令=against Judges!





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发表于 2014-10-26 19:07:11 | 只看该作者


老汤,表明一下我的立场.
我是支持佔中的,我是支持站出来,让北京看看香港人是会反抗的.
让十六亿中国同胞们看一看,夷,原来中国人也是可以争取民主的.
中国人如果整天都和北韩比较,那一定是大天朝了,但如果和欧美相比较,我们的民主,民权,民生呢.





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发表于 2014-10-26 19:22:09 | 只看该作者


但整个运动搞了太久了,已经严重影响到,了民生了.
所以一定要香港政府铁腕镇压了.
还有那个人梁家杰,开口闭口都是梁镇英下台. 是不是CY下台后香港就有真民主了口马吗,您以为基本法是他写的吗. 这完全是私人恩6
俗语有云,家有一狗如刀一





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发表于 2014-10-27 06:29:30 | 只看该作者


theone 发表于 2014-10-26 19:07
老汤,表明一下我的立场.
我是支持佔中的,我是支持站出来,让北京看看香港人是会反抗的.
让十六亿中国同胞 ...


明白你的立场. 你的表达, 至少, not blind fold. You've 目光 & 方向.
原来中国人也是可以争取民主,民权的 ~~~ Yes, to 某些中国人. But not to 暴力/盲從 nowadays. A lot of them don't even understand what's 尊重?
中国人不可能和欧美相比较. At least from angle of 暴力/盲從/自私/智慧/礼貌/顽固 prospective. A large group of 中国人不能 possess 民权的. As mentioned before they must be erased. 他们太幼稚了. Not necessary be killed/died but lifted to certain degree of upgrades.

吾識踢波玩踢波. 无jj学人玩叫鸡. 吾識政治玩政治. is it 叫盲從/幼稚?

还有那个人梁家杰 ... 私人恩6 : You noticed this! What about 学联三子 and those学生s ? They admire him as god/guide. They applause to his speech!







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发表于 2014-10-27 09:24:11 | 只看该作者


tomsiu“吾識踢波玩踢波. 无jj学人玩叫鸡. 吾識政治玩政治. is it 叫盲從/幼稚?”
没有人天生就懂政治的,没有人一出世立刻变成比利的. 一定要有个过程.
民主也一样,孙中山一九一一年提出的三民主义,一百多年过去了,中国还是封建农奴制,習是主子,中常军机大臣. 省政府(包括香港) 是封疆大吏.
这个制度和满清有什分别.
習近平做十六亿人的领导人,有没有得到这十六亿人的同意呢.
没有,那为什么他有权主宰这十六亿人的生死呢.
THE PEOPLE'S Republic OF CHINA .
中华人民共和国.
有没有看清楚 “people 's 和人民”
这也是说这个中华这个国家是属于人民的,不是共产党一个人的.
但事实呢? 我们人民什么时候有权利参过对这个国家的政策呢.






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发表于 2014-10-27 11:09:34 | 只看该作者


没有人天生就懂政治的...... 一定要有个过程. ~~~~ Right & agree. That's what I tried to point out. If person pertain 暴力/無知. It would be very dangerous if they have a gun or vote. They ain't ready for game of 政治. Maybe good to 叫鸡/踢波.

孙中山一九一一年提出的三民主义 ~~~~ Never happened even it is 1911~1949. Reason being, in that era, CHINESE (majority of them) are 暴力/盲從/自私/無智慧/無礼貌/顽固.

“people 's 和人民” ~~~~ referring to 人民 whom love their OWN Country [Not 漢奸]. Whom shown co-operation to protect their Country's core value. That's what 國民教育 taught.

我们人民什么时候有权利参过对这个国家的政策呢. ~~~~ 一定要有个过程 by the time majority Chinese are ready. Who would today? Someone (say 習 or 梁 or 林鄭) did but, not you.






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发表于 2014-10-27 11:51:20 | 只看该作者


2017 普選. Truly ... 这是民主的过程. 然后期待 year 2022..... And 2027.
佔中呢單野 is 政治游戏 by 泛民(or 梁家杰.) Using "真普選" 口号 and 推学生上街. 这完全是私人恩6 between 泛民 and 政府.

第一兄. (Yes, I call you 第一兄). 有非常高的政治智慧. In this topic .... you really 第一 [Level 果然很高,很高. 佩服,佩服]






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 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-26 04:40:23 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2014-10-29 11:33:35 | 只看该作者


2014-10-29 佔中發展如下:
佔中發起人 (佔中三子) 回校上班了 : 要赚钱过生活吗.
泛民 :要上班 ( 立法会 ) 向市民交代.
他们久吾久上台 up 两句. 然后回家吃饭. 或叫鸡.

学联三子 and 无知的青年人继续训街. 他们要梁震英辞职. 同林郑对话. 写信给习近平. 要见李克强. 这是什么? 还有什么? 无勇无谋 and 幼稚. 怕死.怕警棍. 怕OC gas. 怕痛. 有的甚至哭了. 这是運動,革命?

结果股票市场回升. 父母伤心(生左个蠢仔). 青年人前途少左一半机会(政府,中资企业. 难入职喔)[共产党最本事系 ... 秋後算帐)

这大班人就是 .....自私/盲從/無智慧/顽固 ......他們應該有槍/選票吗?







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发表于 2014-10-29 19:57:14 | 只看该作者


整个佔中行动,全香港都是输家. 唯一赢家是肥佬黎.
1)佔中其间,他的一传媒销量数以倍增,特别是苹果曰报. 经过这次运动,苹果已经成为香港民主曰报了.
2)佔中后,香港百业萧条,商家将会大幅增加广告宣传,到时候一周刊又成为了大赢家了.
3)美国对佔中的资金投入一定是经过肥佬黎,以他的性格一定会过河湿脚.
4)佔中期间股市波动,他应该short sale 了不少货.
所以肥佬黎今次占中大赚特赚将以往他的纲上超市赔的钱全赚回来.





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发表于 2014-10-30 07:24:09 | 只看该作者


第一兄. 目光如炬.政治智慧之高小弟 and 賓哥望塵莫及.

这个线上另外两个"盲從" .... 这就是政治游戏 (哈哈. I don't think you both understand this even now). 還是踢踢波算哦..... 吾顺气! Please come out and having 第一兄的教训哦!





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发表于 2014-10-30 18:39:56 | 只看该作者


咪玩我啦老汤,我都系平静分析啫.
我觉得佔中三子,学联三子,都是枪,爛头卒.
后面有袋巾梁,癫狗黃,大舊陳,长毛梁,基佬荃,男人婆刘这班泛民.
这一伙人,我个个都是讨厌的.这班人搞风搞雨,又拉布,又佔中. 但是我觉得香港可以没有他们是不可以的.
特别是长毛和黃沃文. 他们两个都系癫狗来的,都带有狂犬病. 但就是他们两个什么都咬一顿所以香港官员才有所顾忌. 想贪的才不敢贪.
长毛基本上是一个亳无文化水平的一个人,中学都未毕业何來资格做议员呢.几十年都同一个法型同一件硩古华拉杉. 但我会投一票给他就是因为他是狗会吠.
黄沃文就更加不用说啦香港社团向先生的沙煲兄弟,老新的白纸扇. 个底仲黑过墨汁. 但我也会投他一票,因为他够恶,又掟鸡蛋又掟蕉. 一讲唔埋就开拖.
所以许仕仁类型的贪官才有一点点的投鼠忌器.





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发表于 2014-10-31 17:11:49 | 只看该作者


Ben2009 发表于 2014-10-23 22:45
Fat Lo Lai has received foreign funds which has been exposed. Even he doesn't deny it. That $$ get ...


Do you actually follow what goes on within pro-democrats?  The students have been "diu 9ing" Fat lo lai and all the pro-democrats for the uselessness.

張超雄:我哋煽動到佢?你太睇得起我哋喇。
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v= ... RlT2h1B4LohYaIj9lHg

Even if US has a part in it then so what?  It only illustrates the incompetency of CCP.  Isn't HK geographically closer to China than US?  Isn't CCP has stronger influence than US in HK government?  That "Fucking province group" has over $100M HKD of assets ($50M Cash in the bank).   How much did US government spent again?  

Let's just assume US/Pro-democrats are the one who lights the fire for the sake of argument.  Who's pouring all the fuels into the woods?

Come back to respond after you take a walk at the occupy zones (Not over occupy zones btw).  





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chef123 发表于 2014-10-31 17:11
Do you actually follow what goes on within pro-democrats?  The students have been "diu 9ing" Fat l ...


大家點睇佔中呢單野呀? ~~~~ Here is the title/subject posted. Answers:政治遊戲 directed by肥佬黎?

All we (Ben/myself/theone/and others) talks about this is 政治遊戲 only. 無關 with 生活, 革命, 運動, 普選.

革命, 運動 needs Blood. Death. Target. Plan. Kill. [See how it was done in middle east]

我觉得佔中三子,学联三子,都是枪,爛头卒. ~~~~ Right as said.
唯一赢家是肥佬黎. ~~~~ This may be true. By now, 肥佬黎 the only person 是赢家.

Students are victim. That's why police are not 武力清场.
Presume it is 革命, 運動 ....... it would be different (A scene same as 六四)

Ben 哥 ... don't waste your time to this folk.
What about xowetwet .... can you say something?














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发表于 2014-11-1 05:52:10 | 只看该作者


Mr xowetwet .... Before you make your voice please attempt to erase 革命, 運動 from your head.
Read bro "theone" postings all. And insert 肥佬黎 and 泛民 in the scene. Then write your own opinion(s) which would be welcome and no offensive.

These subject over 100 adding. A good material to understand what is 政治遊戲!






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发表于 2014-11-1 12:01:46 | 只看该作者


I believe that the current situation is getting out of hand and nobody can get anything positive out of all this.

PRC:
Xi has no choice but the stay the course because
1. He need to cement his position as the undisputed leader with authority
2. He cannot admit he picked an idiot as 特首 or he will lose face and a chip to his armor
3. He will give a vague response and let his officals below to handle it just in case the worst outcome

HKSARS
689 is a total failure. He is hated by 泛民 and even the pro government is getting divided by him. Although I am a democratic supporter, I have the most respect to a few people from pro government side 曾育成 always and now 田少. They have superb political IQ and they are starting to distance themselves or just "no eye see". I truly hope the Australia authorities successfully sue him for corruption (UGL) and let the PRC have an excuse to replace him.

Conspiracy Theories
I do not 100% throw out the possibility that the US/UK have something to do with the movement. However I seriously doubt they can orchestrate such a huge civil disobedience. I also believe you guys are way overestimating the influence of Apple media fatlo Lai and the HK pro democratic parties. Their resources and manpower are nothing compared to the propaganda machine which is the PRC. Instead I think if the PRC does not interfere HK's matter that deliberately (just look at the obvious case of ATV, HKTV)they might actually win more support. The situation right now is mainly cause by the government (689 is spilling the whole house with propane gas. The people have no choice to open the windows or turn off the propane. Students are just lighting a small spark, who's to blame?)

Just my humble opinion as a mid 30s guy away from HK for 20+ years. I honestly does not have the courage, guts or the youngster's naive to go sleep on streets to protest. If I am the protesters at best I will stay for 1 week. Right now especially MK it have become a nuisance to the locals and I do not believe HK people against HK people.





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发表于 2014-11-1 13:51:27 | 只看该作者


xowetwet 发表于 2014-11-1 12:01
I believe that the current situation is getting out of hand and nobody can get anything positive out ...


Ar ... thanks to Mr wowetwet .. You did read through all these threads.
CHINA:
習 is too top to deal with HK matters. He understands it is no 革命, 運動 elements. Yes, he's letting his junior to handle this. [Agree to your vision]
HKSARS:
梁黨 has 私人摩擦 with 泛民. 曾育成 and 田少 have 抱负 to for position of next CEO of HK (第一兄 noticed this). But with 田少 being erased therefore 曾育成 are more careful about his speech (angle) from now.

Thanks for your expression which makes more sense than the other folk.





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 楼主| 发表于 2014-12-26 04:40:39 | 显示全部楼层

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发表于 2014-11-2 04:11:21 | 只看该作者


Vision is very important in our life span. 中國俚語 "讀萬卷書不如行萬里路". Not just vision but "open/receive" visions. Refers to books (or history) 不如行萬里路!

Everybody has almost the same 智慧. Differences are derived from different training (or 成長條件). Look/hear older low-class people around you that their 智慧 have surprisingly (high) level. Then, with same talking, 固執 = not capable to "open/receive" vision with same 智慧.

行萬里路 allows people to "open/receive" new visions. The more "open" walk the more "open" vision received.[Need leg/years to walk. Not from book or hear]. 年輕人 should 行萬里路 first before choose  訓街?

Human pertains 慾望, 希望. Without a plan how could it becomes 現實? Also, to achieve this it would not be a simple "straight-line". 真普選 is not easy task. It's not straight-line finishes.






   





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发表于 2014-11-6 04:28:32 | 只看该作者


外國透過黎先生,泛民等的動作是沒停止過。這個,美國人自己也承認了。只是長久以來的殖民one track mind教育cross over金錢和傳媒的力量,輕易的把一小撮人洗腦了。很多人選擇不相信外國介入的説法。其實即使不懂之前相對論的科學理論,只要翻開歷史,例子多不勝數。當年日人侵華之前,做了due diligence,總結中國人的3大特點:貪心,自私,短視。從鴉片戰爭到日本侵華,都是漢奸為眼前利益出賣同胞的結果。

一看就知生果日報極有問題,完全不符合傳媒應有的公平公正操手,但中共畢竟開放只數十載,文滙報又豈能與有百年公關經驗的美媒較量?也得一讚美國人的眼光,黎某確是一個人才,香港弄得今日這個田地,他功不可沒。結果政府無論如何7-11的努力,天時地利做就五十萬人推倒了董伯伯。接下來的曾先生,中學畢業能扶搖直上,當然是個"醒目仔"。眼見前人點死,當然維穩最重要。於是一切拖字訣,做就一個弱勢政府,事事一有風吹草動,立即鞠躬道歉,令某些人養成大聲就是有道理,抗議就能得??的習慣。

在不適當的環境下實行民主會有什麼後果?
這問題很簡單,世界給了我們很多範例,如利比亞。獨裁者卡達菲給推翻了,但人民質素未夠,各方不懂妥協,只懂自私短視貪心的爭奪,結果,不是民主,是內戰。這個,大家雖然未必經歷過,也大概知道就是共產黨前(國民黨政府)的中國吧。

香港人可以忘記日本人當年對自己暴殺,崇尚日貨,卻不肯給自己人一個進步的機會。

一個自私的人作主,會成就一個獨裁者。
一個自私的民族作主,會成就一個悲劇。

香港唯一的價值,是對台灣一國兩制的範例。這個,香港人也剛剛自毀了。這一點上,大陸和美國一致的,就是他們的著眼點從來不在香港這點附在中國大腿上的一顆小痣。台灣才是他們在太平洋防線上的爭據地。





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