Asian MM vs White Meat and picking up vs escorting

Assman

Hey my fellow wolf brothers, this is a general discussion topic rather than a review. Not sure if this is the right place to post, mod, feel free to move my post if its not in the appropraite section.

In my personal experience as well as reading the reviews, it seems to me, generally speaking, that asian providers actually give you a good service, while white meat offers almost no service and it bothers me that they dont shower in between clients..... The general argument for white meat is that they are wild, exciting, and passionate, but isn't it just another expression for the lack of service? I personally have not experienced anything close to that. Its more just like taking a lonely shower, come to bed, maybe a few kisses, bj, fk, leave. I never felt that it was a great experience but just simply a business. I know there is a business aspect to all of this but at least put in some effort to make it more of an experience. With asian mm, i feel like im getting a good experience rather than just another business deal.

I have been going out regularly with my white friends to bars/clubs for the last three months. I learned a few principles from them on picking up girls and tried to approach and chat up hot girls in the club. When I do succeed, they are A LOT more fun, wild, exciting, daring than the white meat escorts, which leads to me conclude that its not they are not capable of giving you a good service, it's that they don't want to. White meat escorts are basically just doing the bare minimum to hold up her end of the bargain.  

Summary:
Upside of picking up:
      1.  almost no cost to you other than cover and taxi/uber ( having her for the entire night, can you imagine how much it cost for an escort?)
      2.  you knoe what she looks like and, therefore, no surprises
      3. MUCH MUCH better experience ( not just sex, but a confidence boost as well)
Downside of picking up:
      1. time-spend hours a night, multiple nights a week
      2. a lot of approaches and a lot rejections ( it sucks A LOT)
      3. no guarantee to get laid when you are horny (something like once every two weeks)

Conclusion:
      1. if super horny, see an Asian mm
      2. if curious about non-asian (White/Black/Brown) experience, try picking up

Welcome any tips/thoughts/experiences/opinions/critiques. Thanks guys!!!

fireandice

The comparison between picking up girls and paying for escort is pretty much pointless.

Of course picking up a girl who actually likes you enough to have sex with you is way better than paying a hooker. DUH.... Not only is it free, but she actually likes you instead of pretending to like you. Doesn't take an Einstein to figure it out.

So why do men still pay for escorts. Its pretty obvious too, but for those who still haven't figured it out, here they are:

• Some men are just not physically attractive enough, or socially competent, or a mixture of the 2, to pick up a girl.
• Some men who are capable of picking up a girl simply don't have time, or don't want to spend the effort to do it.
• Some men are married or have girlfriends, and picking up a girl at a public place is too risky because they may be seen by the wife/girlfriend's acquaintances.
• Some men just want sex. They are not interested in the thrill of the chase, nor do they want to please the woman, they want to be serviced.
• Some men have fetishes or desires that most civilian girls are unwilling to do. For example RIMMING.
• Most importantly, CONVENIENCE. All you have to call to book, arrive, do the deed, pay, leave. No hassles.
  

But if none of the above applies to you, by all means go pick up a girl. Why pay when you can get it for free.

fireandice

Now the comparison between Asian and White is worthy of discussion.

I think white girls are more of a wild card. YMMV factors a lot. Western culture of gender equality makes white girls less subservient and their attitude reflects this.

With Asians, and especially Koreans, everything is a lot more scripted. Even if everything felt real and natural, that is just good acting skills, and if you ask a friend who visited the same girl, you'd find that most of the stuff she said and did are the same.

stevehunter909

fireandice 发表于 2017-12-2 20:19
Now the comparison between Asian and White is worthy of discussion.

I think white girls are more o ...

I've been lurking here for a while and I've always noticed the bias towards Asian vs white girls. I really don't understand it and I'm genuinely curious. I've seen both numerous times and I think you've hit it on the nose fireandice. Yes, my experiences with Asian MMs have been that they're very service-oriented in a sense that everything is kind of scripted to be streamlined and pleasant for the client. Extras like folding your clothes to SF2s to some of the routines will be things that white girls don't do and/or won't do, but to me I know the whole thing is just blatantly fake, even if they put on some really good acting.

My time spent with white MMs have been more organic, they seem more real even though they have to do their share of acting I'm sure, but makes it seem less like a scripted ride. With the exception of one, maaaaybe two girls, they've been passionate, very eager to please, appeared to (whether acting or not) enjoy my company and conversations, and provided very generous menus. I'm also not sure why you guys don't think white girls clean up after a session - just because you don't see them doesn't mean they don't do it.

You know, it's funny because I feel the opposite of what Assman said about good experiences vs business deals. With a white MM I feel more like I just brought an attractive girl to a hotel room and now we're going to passionately explore each other's bodies, and both of us often get a glimpse of our genuine selves, whereas with an Asian MM it's like I'm on a roller coaster ride. It's enjoyable, but I know nothing about it is genuine - it's the same routine they always do, the same way they act for everyone, especially if there's a communication barrier and you're just going through the motions.

I should add that I'm Asian as well and was born outside Canada (but can speak only English unfortunately. I really want to like Asian MMs more, but I find it difficult to feel special or connected with her if I know I'm just another guy going through the exact same process as everyone else.

hamsuplo

stevehunter909 发表于 2018-1-8 19:31
I've been lurking here for a while and I've always noticed the bias towards Asian vs white girls.  ...

Not sure how white girls clean up after a session. Maybe they just wipe of kleenex or something, I don't know. But I'm fairly sure most of them do not shower.

On more than one occasion with non Asian service providers I could smell the stench of dried saliva and/or other body fluids on their bodies.

They also get dressed after a session which is an indicator that they do not intend to shower.

stevehunter909

I guess there's no real way to tell about the shower thing. Although they'd say they showered it could be hard to tell whether they actually did or just wiped themselves down or even nothing at all. However, just from experience I've never smelled or seen any bodily fluids from previous sessions. For the most part the ladies' hygiene have been great. Only on one occasion did I get turned off by body odour which I think was because I believe I was the first client and I'm guessing she probably didn't shower immediately before. Not a big deal to me, understandable that she may not be as sensitive to her own odours and didn't think that she needed to clean herself again (I'm assuming she at least had a shower that morning... otherwise... ew). On the other hand I think if the client is required to shower immediately before a session (which they should be), the SP should too. Thankfully that was my only experience with hygiene issues.

But yeah you can make sure both of you are clean with SF2, which is a very nice feature for Asian MMs. Personally though? I'd rather jump in the shower by myself, spend a minute to get squeaky clean and jump right into the action than spending a long time in the shower then have to make that transition to the bedroom.

Assman

I respectfully disagree with the gender equality thing as the reason behind lower service level. This has nothing to do with equality. It is a job she chose to do and there's a level of expectation when it comes to attitude and service. Acting is part of the job description. A lot of guys are paying for the fantasy of a hot attractive girl who wants to fuck him and fuck him enthusiastically. If she doesn't like it, she shouldn't take this line of work in the first place. Everybody hates it when she just can't wait to get it over with and kick him out.

Speaking from personal experience white chicks provides better "service" than an Asian MM if you pick her up from a regular bar/club and enjoy SF2. This leads me to believe that she just doesn't want to give you the best experience that she's capable of. I know many of you will disagree, but my conclusion is you should hire Asian MMs and try to pick up white chicks. The obvious downside, of course, is it might take a while before a guy can actually pick one up.

fireandice

Assman 发表于 2018-1-28 21:11
I respectfully disagree with the gender equality thing as the reason behind lower service level. Thi ...

Comparing an escort, regardless Asian or White or anything else, with a girl you pick up at the bar is absurd.

One is providing sex for money, the other is doing it because she actually feels an attraction to you. So of course the one who is in it for the money doesn't truly want nor enjoy doing the work; and while some hookers put on a good show, others don't.

Saying, one should choose one or the other makes it sound like a realistic choice, but for most guys, its not. The reason most guys pick up hookers is because they either can't, or don't have time, or find it too difficult to pick up girls at bars/clubs. So we should probably just focus on hiring MMs and leave discussion of picking up girls for another time.