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 发表于 2014-3-10 18:28:56 | 只看该作者 
德國人見面打招呼用語 : AllesinOrdnung秩序還好吧.
德國地鐵裡的人們不用手機上網，而是捧一本書靜靜閱讀 德國人從不把愛國掛在嘴上，但內心深處卻有著與生俱來的民族榮譽感 在德國的賓館和市政大廳的洗手間裡，都有兩卷衛生紙，一卷放在盒子裡，另一卷備用 科隆大教堂的宏偉是相機無法拍攝的，教堂修了600年，最初的設計者對這座巨大建築早就構思了全部細節，歷經幾百年，這個設計思路還能夠延續 汽車在市區裡行駛，時速不得超過30英里。也有個笑話說：如果半夜12點還有人在路上等紅燈，那個人肯定是德國人 他們的街面上永遠都是自己國家生產的汽車。沒有哪個德國人會像中國遊客那樣在法國的市場上排隊去買LV，如果限制他們購買數量並排隊，那麼他們寧可不買 在餐廳裡，德國人來吃飯，走後不用換桌布，因為上面滴油不沾 衣服舊得不能再舊了，它的扣子依然還在。於是，有句玩笑的話說，德國鈕扣的壽命比婚姻還長 無論是現代都市還是鄉村小鎮，全國街頭巷尾的垃圾箱款式、造型、功能和顏色全部統一 1911年4月，雲南滇池螳螂川上的石龍壩電站建成發電。100年過去了，它仍然在為鄰近的村寨提供所需的電力。這座水電站所用水輪機、發電機和變壓櫃全部是德國西門子公司的產品 |
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| 沙发
 楼主| 发表于 2014-3-10 18:31:27 | 只看该作者
The above and below were extracted from a friend's recent email. Comment welcome.
當嚴謹做到極致時，不要覺得不可理喻！
表達意見：他們直來直去從不拐彎抹角
生活方式：他們獨立自主沒有七姑八姨
時間概念：他們精確到秒拒絕或早或晚
人際關係：他們簡單清晰拒絕複雜多變
對待憤怒：他們愛憎分明不懂笑裡藏刀
排隊習慣：他們規矩禮讓不要扎堆取巧
餐廳氛圍：他們安靜用餐從不大聲喧嘩
旅遊方式：他們用眼睛看而非用相機看
美麗標準：他們崇尚健康不要瘋狂減肥
處理問題：他們直面問題從不逃避推諉
撫養子女：他們嚴格教育從不溺愛子女
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楼主| 发表于 2014-3-10 18:34:25 | 只看该作者
Then ..... If it is true ...... the questions come: How HITLER able to draw their attention/pursuits?
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| 地板
发表于 2014-3-10 19:43:52 | 只看该作者
tomsiu 发表于 2014-3-10 05:31
The above and below were extracted from a friend's recent email. Comment welcome.
當嚴謹做到極致時 ...
Agree with you!
more than 20 years ago, we had a project with a company in Germany, worked with them for a couple of months in Nuremburg, I can feel what you said, they do what they said? I wonder what make them act like that? culture? laws? society education?....
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发表于 2014-3-10 21:07:25 | 只看该作者
万年古佛 发表于 2014-3-10 06:43
Agree with you!
more than 20 years ago, we had a project with a company in Germany, worked with t ...
Absolutely.
All the German friends / co-workers I have, they are very "rigid". They do what they said and they said what they do. On the other hand, sometimes, they are "inflexible".
The things I like the most about them is that they rarely are late for appointments!
Seems like it is from their culture and also their education system which define their behavior. |
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发表于 2014-3-11 00:27:13 | 只看该作者
I believe they were taught at young age to act honest, do what they like, proud of themselves.
At the same time they do not look up at other races. Do not mix up easily with other races.
Accept themselves far more than accepting others.
Something we need to learn. |
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发表于 2014-3-11 13:26:06 | 只看该作者
I know Japaneses are now not too liked in Asia but they have the exact same attitude and culture. They are therefore successful and strong.
It might be hard to learn cross race/continent, so in Asia Japanese are great role model, except the crazy killing, denying history part... |
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楼主| 发表于 2014-3-11 19:17:10 | 只看该作者
BayerischeM 发表于 2014-3-11 00:26
I know Japaneses are now not too liked in Asia but they have the exact same attitude and culture. Th ...
I hate Japan's (brutal) killing during war time. But no doubt Jap is a good module for us to learn. Their cities are clean. People very friendly/polite. Cars, Camera, electronics, Engineering are top in the world. Even the vegetable are super (in Asia).
Per Taiwan natives .... they like Jap (and hate KMT) [DD, not sure you noticed this?]
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 发表于 2014-3-12 04:51:41 | 只看该作者
tomsiu 发表于 2014-3-11 06:17
I hate Japan's (brutal) killing during war time. But no doubt Jap is a good module for us to learn ...
I have a lot of respect for the Germans, but not so much for the Japs.
Leaving apart the war time atrocities, the reason I respect the Germans but not the Japs goes back again to history.
First of all, every nation, empire, civilizations, and even individuals have ups and downs. I always emphasize that a knowledge of history is required to give context. Most people only look at the immediate present (example: China weak & backwards, Japan advanced & strong, US represent democracy & most powerful nation on Earth) and think that this is the way it has always been and always will be. That is totally wrong.
Germans have always been a force to reckon with. Since I'm a military fan, lets start with the German military. Even way back before they became a nation, the Germanic tribes struck fear into the hearts of the Roman emperors who had conquered most of the Western world but repeated got bloodied by the Germans. By the Middle Age, the Teutonic knights from the Germanic states were arguably the most powerful in Europe. In the early Modern era, the Prussians were the finest military force in Europe and admired for their professionalism. They were considered the most powerful force on land (Great Britain was the most powerful naval force). In the 20th century, the Germans almost single-handedly took on all the rest of the world powers and came very close to winning.
Besides the military, the Germans also excel in almost every other field. In music, they gave us Beethoven & Mozart (Austria was part of Germany in the past). In philosophy, there is Kant, Leibniz, Hegel, Nietzsche (one of my favourite), Marx, and more. In sports, the German football team is consistently the front runners in every Euro and World Cup tournament. Science & technology is even more obvious. German engineering is undisputably the finest in the world. Economically, Germany is the powerhouse of Europe, and the nation that is carrying the rest of Europe, such as the deadbeat economies of the PIIGS.
The Germans have been consistently great throughout history, and excel in almost every field. Now, how does Japan measure up? Japan has always been a backwater society throughout most of its history. In fact, it is just one of the countless tributary states of imperial China. Even Vietnam was more advanced and prosperous than Japan throughout most of the ages. Japan really only became powerful after the Meiji restoration which was approx 1.5 century ago (a brief span of time in history of human civilization). This was done by adopting Western ideals and technology. In doing so, the Japanese had to sacrifice a huge portion of their cultural identity (if you took Japanese studies in univ, they talk alot about how the essence of Japanese was thrown away and lost forever in their pursuit to become Westernized). Even Japanese intellectuals & scholars lament that Japan had become a fake/imitation Westerner (although I would say quite a successful imitation). The Japanese military was completely modeled on the Prussians (and hired them as trainers). In other areas, much of the Japanese cuisine (what we think of as Japanese food today) is actually very foreign and newly introduced to Japan (eg, tempura, ramen, etc). The much-touted Japanese spirit or mentality (bravery, devotion, love for their country) is also a very recent development (influenced by Fascism of which was popular a century ago). Furthermore, while Japan has become advanced in military & technology, they are no where near the level of success of the Germans' who are either the best, or one of the bests, in almost every other field of human endeavor.
I should specially point out that Japan is where it is today (advanced properous society), due to EXTREME GOOD LUCK. See, throughout history, whenever a nation/state lost a major war, the results are very bad, or downright catastrophic. However, due to the special geo-political environment after Japan's defeat in World War 2, Japan is the only nation in the entire history of humankind that actually BENEFITTED from its defeat. Not only was the nation NOT plundered and/or made to pay huge indemnities/reparations (which is the usual result of defeat), Japan actually received MASSIVE financial aid & technological transfers & shipments of material (food & natural resources) from the USA. Of course, this was NOT due to kindness, but because the US needed a strong Japanese ally to act as its deputy in Asia, and at the same time positioned as a "dagger" or "unsinkable aircraft carrier" to aim at / contain the Soviet Union which was its ideological foe & mortal enemy during the Cold War (which began almost immediately after WWII ended). Therefore, I would argue that today's Japan is advanced & strong mainly due to UNBELIEVABLY GOOD LUCK. Wouldn't be the first time either. Japan also faced imminent devastation & being conquered by the Mongols, several hundred years ago, but a typhoon sank the entire invading force.
It is for the reasons given above, that I think most people nowadays (lacking context due to ignorance of history) think Japan is so awesome. As a distinct nation/society/culture, the Germans are to be respected in almost all aspects (except diplomacy which they suck at). The Japanese have a few things worth learning from (hard-working, polite, strong sense of unity & community spirit); other than these, they are really not impressive at all.
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发表于 2014-3-12 08:08:07 | 只看该作者
Ben bro...those are very nice and extensive writing there...
I think any "Han" descendents ought to dislike the Japanese, but to be strong, the Neo-Han generation shall pick the goods from the others.
Korean has been modelling the Japanese in Kaizen (slowly, systematically improve quality), JIT (just in time logistics) etc. Which are the good stuffs to push Samsung, Hyndai to what they are today.
I was quite impressed when I watched the documentary about China's "3 gorges Dan", some thought and quality was put in!
But many other Chinese consume goods are still really crappy. I guess Han people prefer cutting corners. Something that ought to change over time. |
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